Sunday, April 03, 2005

The power of three

Ok I know that two is company and three a crowd :-) I am at home with my two girls, the three of us are playing the Spongebob Squarepants movie PC game. It’s fun!

I was walking through Itchen Valley Country Park on Friday musing on the triune nature of man and God (among other things). I wondered if Freud was borrowing from the triune nature of God when he came up with the following for the structure of the human mind:

THE ID: (“It”): functions in the irrational and emotional part of the mind. At birth a baby’s mind is all Id - want want want. The Id is the primitive mind. It contains all the basic needs and feelings. It is the source for libido (psychic energy). And it has only one rule --> the “pleasure principle”: “I want it and I want it all now”. In transactional analysis, Id equates to "Child".
Id too strong = bound up in self-gratification and uncaring to others

THE EGO: (“I”): functions with the rational part of the mind. The Ego develops out of growing awareness that you can’t always get what you want. The Ego relates to the real world and operates via the “reality principle”. The Ego realises the need for compromise and negotiates between the Id and the Superego. The Ego's job is to get the Id's pleasures but to be reasonable and bear the long-term consequences in mind. The Ego denies both instant gratification and pious delaying of gratification. The term ego-strength is the term used to refer to how well the ego copes with these conflicting forces. To undertake its work of planning, thinking and controlling the Id, the Ego uses some of the Id's libidinal energy. In transactional analysis, Ego equates to "Adult".
Ego too strong = extremely rational and efficient, but cold, boring and distant

THE SUPEREGO: (“Over-I”): The Superego is the last part of the mind to develop. It might be called the moral part of the mind. The Superego becomes an embodiment of parental and societal values. It stores and enforces rules. It constantly strives for perfection, even though this perfection ideal may be quite far from reality or possibility. Its power to enforce rules comes from its ability to create anxiety.
The Superego has two subsystems: "Ego Ideal" and "Conscience". The Ego Ideal provides rules for good behaviour, and standards of excellence towards which the Ego must strive. The Ego ideal is basically what the child’s parents approve of or value. The Conscience is the rules about what constitutes bad behaviour. The Conscience is basically all those things that the child feels mum or dad will disapprove of or punish.
Superego too strong = feels guilty all the time, may even have an insufferably saintly personality
Couple this with:

Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our
likeness…”

Genesis 1:26 (NIV)


is there an obvious association between the triune nature of God and man? Do they map in this fashion?

The Father – The Superego
The Son – The Id
The Holy Spirit (Ghost) – The Ego

I've never seen this connection made, would the id and ego be reversed? What do you think?

This of course begs the question, "did God create man or did Man create god?" Or was Freud just having a laugh?

Current song: “The Magic Number” – De La Soul

1 comment:

Elaine Greywalker said...

Interesting concept. If you are going to make that analogy, I prefer:
God: Superego
Jeus: Ego
Holy Ghost: Id

:-)